Oral History: Dan Wade
*Teresa Stanton, Reference/Foreign and International Law Librarian,
University of North Carolina, conducted the oral history.
I entered the profession in 1982, and I came to it after library school
at the University of Illinois. I had taken a course in international
law at DePaul Law School and worked with Cherif Bassiouni . Then in
library school I did an independent study research paper with Edward
Kolodziej, now Director of Global Studies here, on the disarmament
program. So this gave me a bit of a background in international law.
had been a professional student, and I currently work in six languages.
I don’t have Slavic languages, but I do collection development work in
six languages. They were gained just as a result of my
education—religious studies, for the most part. It’s reading knowledge,
and I just gained them over the course of my graduate studies and
undergraduate school as well.
I had an indulgent wife,
so I basically didn’t go to work until quite, quite late in life—I
think I was about age 34. So having had the relationship with Professor
Bassiouni, and the package of languages, and the law degree, and
library degree, I think gave me at least a resume which I could put
out, seeking a position in foreign and international law.
first position was at Vanderbilt. I worked with Igor Kvass for a year,
as the government documents librarian and international law
librarian--but much more as a government documents librarian. But in
the course of the year I became his research assistant, and he gave me
a great deal of training in the course of doing that research and
working on his writing. I learned a great deal about foreign and
international legal bibliography. That was a wonderful opportunity.
then spent four years at the University of Houston, working as the
international law librarian, and I also kind of worked specifically in
building their Mexican collection. They were interested in building up
Mexican law. So I would make book-buying trips to Mexico and we would
bring the books back. The library director, Jon Schultz, would meet me
at the airport, and we would throw the boxes of books which would
number in the hundreds onto the pickup truck, and carry them off to the
library. So that was a great education too.
came to Yale, where I’ve been for seventeen years. I’m just starting my
eighteenth. Here I’m primarily responsible for collection development.
I do a little reference, also some teaching.
really would hold out for anyone who is bookish or a bibliophile that
this is a wonderful profession. While there are years where one must
struggle—when you’re putting your kids through college-- that could be
said for a lot of professions. That is, we could certainly be
reimbursed better, but it’s certainly adequate and provides for the
I co-teach a course on legal issues in
Africa, and I also have –well, I administer a course more than I teach
or lecture per se—in international legal research. So those have been
my two opportunities to teach.
I entered the
profession the year that the SIS came into being. And I don’t know
whether that was 1982 or 1983, but the first meeting was in Detroit
that I attended--or in Windsor, Canada. As a matter of fact I’m not
even sure where it was sited. So I remember the proposal for the SIS
and I remember that there was a report by Francisco Avalos, who’s been
at the University of Arizona all this time. And [it was] kind of
proposing the SIS. I don’t remember if it was voted on at the meeting,
but at least it was discussed, and it would’ve been voted on either at
that meeting or the next one.
I think what drew me to
the SIS was that I was interested in foreign and international law.
While the membership of the SIS is tremendous now, I think it numbers
in the hundreds, there were very few people who did a significant
amount of work in the area, so it was a good way of coming together and
collaborating in the missions or goals of the SIS. One thing I want to
be sure to reference is Judith Wright’s work for AALL called Training
the Future Generation of Foreign and International Law Librarians in
1991. So this was really the first call that there was a need to do
more to find other foreign and international law librarians. And I
would say that initially –well, I don’t remember the missions or goals
per se; I guess you’d find those in the bylaws- it was really a
bringing together of specialists who were working in foreign and
My sense is that now there are a
lot more librarians who are expected to know something about foreign
and international law. It has become much more of an interest, or
something that Anglo-American reference librarians need to know about.
And I think there’s a trend that reference librarians are to be
expected to handle these sources and questions. I’m not so sure that
was true in the early 80s but that has been something that has changed
over the decades. And I would think that would bring in a much larger
number of people who are interested in the SIS.
I was just looking at my contribution to the Wright book, and I had
counted foreign and international law librarians in 1991 and there were
about 40. And I recently did that this summer, and I think it was in
the low 50s. So, you know, we’ve grown by 20% perhaps.
I think there is more interest from the generalized librarians.
Something that the SIS has never been very successful at, although
there are notable exceptions – I think of Janet Zagorin—is really
encountering, engaging the private law librarian. I notice in the 1991
list there were several private law librarians who had titles like
foreign and international law librarian; I don’t remember the people.
But it strikes me that law firms--- major New York law firms-- have to
worry about international issues and as their librarians develop
expertise in international law, one challenge for the SIS is to find
the way of inviting those librarians to participate.
think a lot of the purpose of the SIS as I remember it initially was so
that we could meet each other, so that we could collaborate, and so
that we could begin understanding what was going on at our respective
institutions. A lot of the things that were subsequently picked up in
the Interest Groups are some of the things that motivated us initially.
remember there being a kind of an international law research
instruction [session] being done by Simone Kleckner, who was the
librarian for the United Nations, and Blanka Kudej, who was the foreign
and international law librarian at NYU. And that was one of the
earliest programs. It would be interesting ---I believe Frank Houdek
compiled a list of programs at AALL--to go back and see what those
earliest FCIL-SIS sponsored programs were. But that’s one that stands
out in my mind.
I’d like to list a few librarians that were influential in my development, and people that I would encourage you to talk with.
think it’s interesting that the person who kind of developed the draft
plan for educating the next generation of foreign and international law
librarians is now the president of AALL. That was mainly Claire
Germain, so I would certainly think that she’s someone who should be
engaged in a conversation such as this.
early librarian who was influential in my work because of where he was
working, the University of Illinois Law Library, is Tim Kearley, who is
the director at the University of Wyoming library.
was a generation prior to mine of European �migr�s: Dr. Sprudzs from
the University of Chicago, who has passed away; Marta Tarnowsky, who
was at University of Pennsylvania, Blanca Kudej from NYU, Simone
Kleckner –all from Eastern Europe and a substantial group of the
generation prior to mine –librarians of the 70s, shall we say. And also
I think another person who influenced me was Kent McKeever, who’s now
the library director at Columbia, who held a position as a
foreign/international law librarian.
And I think of
Ellen Shaffer, who was a year or two ahead of me in the profession--she
is probably one of the people who over the years, has contributed most
to my professional development. So I think that’s a good set.
somebody else who might know a lot about the formation of the SIS is
Francisco Avalos. Unfortunately I believe his institution doesn’t pay
for his coming to AALL, to the AALL annual meeting, but he’s the author
of the response I remember hearing way back in Detroit—the initial
meeting. He wasn’t able to make the meeting, but he had written